tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3198844712067354490.post3370060068310811460..comments2023-12-27T22:40:47.439-06:00Comments on Gentle Musings: Teaser: A Surprisingly 18th-Century VacationAnnahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03095426164654110973noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3198844712067354490.post-15661656715662730032012-04-06T22:32:32.444-05:002012-04-06T22:32:32.444-05:00No way, I love the fact that I will never know eve...No way, I love the fact that I will never know everything about 18th century clothing and it's a constant research and learning process...I always appreciate links! Thank you :)Annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095426164654110973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3198844712067354490.post-70192736066870388062012-04-06T10:30:12.002-05:002012-04-06T10:30:12.002-05:00Oh, I see! I think that, in general, people don&#...Oh, I see! I think that, in general, people don't realize how built up America was at the time. Maybe because the term "colony" sounds so basic? But Charleston was one of the Big Cities. And the sacque I posted a pattern of a while ago was from Albany, which wasn't even as big. They seem to have been pretty popular among American high society - <a href="http://www.mfa.org/collections/object/mr-and-mrs-ralph-izard-alice-delancey-31228" rel="nofollow">here's</a> a portrait of a couple from Charleston (abroad in Italy at the time, but there are other Copleys painted in America that show them - and <a href="http://www.historicnewengland.org/collections-archives-exhibitions/collections-access/collection-object/capobject?gusn=GUSN-4659&searchterm=None" rel="nofollow">here's one</a> from New England and not by Copley) where the woman's wearing one. There were very formal versions, and probably anyone who had to do physical work wouldn't have been wearing one, but there's that <a href="http://lwlimages.library.yale.edu/walpoleweb/oneitem.asp?imageId=lwlpr03301" rel="nofollow">print</a> that shows a "paintress of macaronis" in one, so the form in and of itself couldn't have been too formal.<br /><br />I <i>think</i> the silkworm cultivation was mentioned in Laurel Thatcher Ulrich's <i>Age of Homespun</i>, if you want to read more about it.<br /><br />Not to lecture you or anything! I just like sharing links.Cassidyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03596345781746342408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3198844712067354490.post-44717260364763778832012-04-05T16:38:45.357-05:002012-04-05T16:38:45.357-05:00Holy crap! I'm looking at my photo of the plaq...Holy crap! I'm looking at my photo of the plaque over the dress, and it IS Eliza Pinckney's dress (not the one in the picture up there...I promise I'll post it shortly): "She also dabbled in silk production, using the leaves of the mulberry tree gathered by the slaves' children to feed the worms. Her maids would later reel the silk in preparation for weaving. A French Huguenot Artisan in England reputedly wove the silk strands into fabric. While in England, Eliza Pinckney had three dresses made from her silk. One was given to the Mother of King George III, who lost the colonies, one was given to Lord Chesterfield, who was considered a friend of the colonies, and the third is the one you see here in Charleston." <br /><br />That was one heck of a lady entrepreneur.Annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095426164654110973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3198844712067354490.post-7601131386106463812012-04-05T14:21:03.203-05:002012-04-05T14:21:03.203-05:00Annabelle-
Charleston was pretty swanky by the mi...Annabelle-<br /><br />Charleston was pretty swanky by the mid-18th century. And yes, silk was attempted in the coastal South Carolina area at least as early as 1732. I have a copy of a newspaper printed in South Carolina that year which has the first of a 2-part segment on how to raise your own silk worms. I had NO BLOODY IDEA that someone managed to grow enough to make a dress! Eliza Pinckney (local Charleston legend for successfully growing Indigo before anyone else 'round these here parts) attempted to cultivate silk worms around 1740, but I don't think it was a success for her either. That dress blows my mind. Write the post, woman!<br /><br />And tell me next time you're in town. I'll brush my teeth and take the next bus to Charleston.Thread-Headhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15993301657471657837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3198844712067354490.post-2671040677469298242012-04-05T13:10:01.091-05:002012-04-05T13:10:01.091-05:00Thanks Rowenna! Wow, yes, my mom and I were amazed...Thanks Rowenna! Wow, yes, my mom and I were amazed by the gorgeously well-preserved number of homes, but I had no idea it was such a hub of activity back then! That is fascinating that it wasn't JUST a busy harbour.Annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095426164654110973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3198844712067354490.post-2910431168015477862012-04-05T09:10:56.025-05:002012-04-05T09:10:56.025-05:00Charleston is on my "list"--I've alw...Charleston is on my "list"--I've always wanted to visit what was once the cosmopolitan center of the southern colonies! I was researching the southern campaign of the Revolution a couple years ago and was shocked at how established and cosmopolitan of a city it was--music societies, concerts, a vibrant social season! I want to go...too bad I can't go for a week in about 1775! I hope you enjoyed your vacation!Rowennahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09757364614589686606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3198844712067354490.post-73560842856039358352012-04-05T01:31:38.672-05:002012-04-05T01:31:38.672-05:00Durr. I'm tired too. I meant to finish that se...Durr. I'm tired too. I meant to finish that sentence "It just seemed unusual...I feel like I haven't seen very many extant sacques in books with pictures of gowns that were verified as being worn in the colonies."Annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095426164654110973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3198844712067354490.post-56061597385491308522012-04-05T01:24:33.502-05:002012-04-05T01:24:33.502-05:00Haha little miss Snippet, apparently I am totally ...Haha little miss Snippet, apparently I am totally stalking your life by accident because you are that awesome ;) CRAZY coincidence! <br /><br />Cassidy, I guess I was under the impression that A) sacques were considered super-dressy, B) they were more favored by the French than the English and even less so by the colonists and C) Charleston didn't seem big enough or well-established enough in the 1770s to have had the kind of society that merited really dressy gowns? I'm not sure if I just picked up some really out-of-date info and drew up my own erroneous conclusion, or if sacques really were not the norm and these two just happened to survive because they were rare. It just seemed <br /><br />I will say I found something fascinating on the signage near the gown, which was going to come out in a future post but I might as well tell now...one of the gowns was made of silk that came from America. Apparently one of the ladies in Charleston was given silkworms, raised them, collected their silk, and sent it off to England to have fabric gowns made out of it. CRAZY.Annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095426164654110973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3198844712067354490.post-86069435887455109292012-04-04T21:50:18.316-05:002012-04-04T21:50:18.316-05:00I'm a little tired and stupid right now, so ma...I'm a little tired and stupid right now, so maybe it's actually obvious, but why did it surprise you to see two sacques from Charleston?Cassidyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03596345781746342408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3198844712067354490.post-35841285853120654002012-04-04T17:24:09.969-05:002012-04-04T17:24:09.969-05:00Okay.
First of all, you were in my backyard. (So ...Okay.<br /><br />First of all, you were in my backyard. (So to speak.)I live about 2 hours away from the Charleston area you visited. Secondly, I went to the Bahamas on a first-time cruise with my parents a month ago. <br /><br />So I guess what I'm trying to say is... GET OUT OF MY HEAD.Thread-Headhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15993301657471657837noreply@blogger.com